"orgasms are small burst of anti-social ideology in the purest form"
HSExpertise
HSExpertise
| <HSExpertise> | Louise freely accepts humans as they are |
| <MichealRein> | You didn't have a break down over the existance of Porrim |
| <HSExpertise> | I did, but that was a past and pervasively ignorant iteration of myself. I have since undergone a reformation, to which ipgd can attest |
| <HSExpertise> | The second comma was unnecessary |
| <MichealRein> | It was but it wasn't bad |
| <ipgd> | hse i know youre bullshittin |
| <HSExpertise> | Pardon? |
| <ipgd> | you know exactly what i meant |
| <MichealRein> | You're still crazy girl |
| <HSExpertise> | No, I don't! I am not bullshitting anything and I am most certainly not crazy in any capacity |
HSE
HSE
| 21: | 03:53 <HSE> ipgd I am no longer fanatically driven by a desire for efficiency in EVERYTHING |
| 21: | 04:00 <HSE> that's silly and unreasonable |
| 21: | 04:16 <ipgd> then why the cunt campaign still |
| 21: | 04:26 <HSE> I think it's entertaining, personally |
| 21: | 04:45 <HSE> everything I do serves the purpose of entertaining me on an admitted frivolous whim |
| 21: | 05:10 <ipgd> if youre willing to put this much effort into killing your junk |
| 21: | 05:10 <HSE> I hate my cunt because I want to, I hate spew and people I arbitrarily deem degenerate hedonists because I want to |
| 21: | 05:12 <HSE> yes |
| 21: | 05:41 <ipgd> why not put the same amount of effort into making yourself not hate these things and not compel yourself to harm yourself anymore |
| 21: | 05:51 <HSE> I could easily take the "higher road" and just sign a metaphorical armistice with them all but that would be BORING AS PISS |
| 21: | 05:52 <ipgd> then you could be entertained by your genitals in a non-hateful way |
| 21: | 06:04 <ipgd> why settle for an armistice |
| 21: | 06:06 <ipgd> have an alliance |
| 21: | 06:28 <ipgd> genitals can be fun when you don't resent them |
| 21: | 06:44 <HSE> in my opinion being at perpetual war with an arbitrarily designated enemy force is more personally entertaining than the alternative |
| 21: | 07:04 <ipgd> yeah, but you could change that opinion |
| 21: | 07:04 <HSE> without hatred and unreasonable resentment I would be very dull indeed |
| 21: | 07:14 <HSE> why would I want to? |
| 21: | 07:20 <ipgd> you could put the same amount of work your do now into changing your mental state to be amenable to it |
| 21: | 07:34 <ipgd> then you could move on with your life and focus on something more socially and personally productive |
| 21: | 07:45 <HSE> ipgd I'm not sure I've made myself clear |
| 21: | 08:13 <HSE> I only do what I do because it's entertaining and in the long run is not a wholy catastrophic way of working my way into the USsenate |
| 21: | 08:18 <HSE> *US senate |
| 21: | 08:24 <ipgd> do you not on any level wish to just be done with it all |
| 21: | 08:32 <ipgd> is there no end point where you are going to be "finished" |
| 21: | 08:41 <ipgd> is it in itself an endless war you intend to perpetrate until your death |
| 21: | 08:42 <HSE> no there is a definitive end point |
| 21: | 08:57 <ipgd> and whats that |
| 21: | 10:02 <HSE> if you don't mind my disclosure of this information, it is the destruction of 70 million human uteruses and the destruction of things I deem personally distasteful during my life |
| 21: | 10:18 <ipgd> thats unattainable though |
| 21: | 10:22 <HSE> how so? |
| 21: | 10:26 <ipgd> you are not going to detroy the uteruses of 70 million people |
| 21: | 10:31 <ipgd> how could you |
| 21: | 10:40 <ipgd> you could not attain that through a democratic system |
| 21: | 10:50 <ipgd> even if by some divine intervention |
| 21: | 10:57 <ipgd> you actually had a plan that was feasible |
| 21: | 11:11 <ipgd> you would be removed from office before you could put the plan into motion or affect anything in any meaningful way |
| 21: | 11:14 <HSE> yes I am well aware of the failure for democracy to facilitate these goals |
| 21: | 11:22 <HSE> *failure of democracy to facilitate |
| 21: | 11:47 <ipgd> do you then believe you will somehow manage to change the entire government structure of the united states single handedly |
| 21: | 12:36 <HSE> not singlehandedly, I will undoubtedly need to forge a terribly complex chain of alliances with people whom I dislike but less so than uteruses and whoever Spew/Lil Seb etc. are in real life |
| 21: | 12:42 <HSE> the GOP for instance |
| 21: | 12:58 <HSE> mind you I make no plan to wipe these things out FOREVER |
| 21: | 13:04 <HSE> that would be preposterous |
| 21: | 13:05 <ipgd> dude the government cant even pass a budget |
| 21: | 13:20 <ipgd> what makes you think there would be any way for you to convince anyone to destroy uteruses |
| 21: | 13:24 <ipgd> most people like them |
| 21: | 13:38 <ipgd> you dont have the resources to make destroying 70 million uteruses in anyone's best interest |
| 21: | 13:55 <ipgd> it would conflict enormously with the religious right and feminist groups |
| 21: | 14:00 <HSE> that is true, but the mobilization of a government for total war within 80 years is very feasible |
| 21: | 14:07 <ipgd> which kinda knocks out most of the conservative and liberal blocks |
| 21: | 14:09 <HSE> it's happened on numerous occasions |
| 21: | 14:22 <ipgd> you cant mobilize the government for war without support of congress |
| 21: | 14:30 <ipgd> which is impossible to get, congress will not support anything |
| 21: | 14:40 <HSE> changing congress is always a possibility |
| 21: | 14:47 <HSE> (laughter from the audience) |
| 21: | 14:56 <ipgd> yeah thats not gonna happen |
| 21: | 15:09 <ipgd> the political system will not be amenable to your plans any time within your lifetime |
| 21: | 15:24 <HSE> what of other feasible political systems |
| 21: | 15:33 <ipgd> youd have to install them |
| 21: | 15:38 <ipgd> which isnt possible |
| 21: | 15:46 <HSE> what makes it impossible? |
| 21: | 15:54 <ipgd> because its a democratic process |
| 21: | 16:00 <ipgd> you cant force your will on other people |
| 21: | 16:11 <ipgd> you have to convince them to willingly agree to implement your policies |
| 21: | 16:22 <ipgd> even moving to a non-democratic process would necessarily be a democratic process |
| 21: | 16:31 <ipgd> they would have to agree to give away their vote |
| 21: | 16:34 <HSE> I'm essentially opting for a temporary fascist takeover of the United States in order to realize an entirely frivolous, arbitrary goal statement |
| 21: | 16:48 <ipgd> that is not going to happen |
| 21: | 17:40 <HSE> what do you suppose the alternative is, excluding surrender |
| 21: | 17:46 <ipgd> in order for that to happen you would either need some sort of means by which to convince people to submit to your fascist regime |
| 21: | 17:52 <ipgd> i.e. blackmail, threats, bribes |
| 21: | 17:57 <ipgd> or military force you can mobilize |
| 21: | 18:13 <ipgd> and you have neither manpower nor any meaningful political or personal leverage |
| 21: | 18:21 <HSE> not now of course |
| 21: | 18:26 <ipgd> and you never will |
| 21: | 18:42 <HSE> is there anything concrete which prevents me from gaining said qualities |
| 21: | 18:54 <ipgd> again, political clout relies on social manipulation and voluntary alliances |
| 21: | 19:02 <ipgd> you have no means to get people on your side and support you |
| 21: | 19:13 <ipgd> and lots of things working against you in that department as well |
| 21: | 19:44 <HSE> not even if I adopted a stance in politics that did not necessarily reflect my legitimate views |
| 21: | 19:50 <ipgd> you're asian, female, (i presume) nonreligious, and have no legal/political training or credentials |
| 21: | 19:54 <ipgd> people wouldn't vote for you |
| 21: | 20:33 <ipgd> on a political stage you'd be no different from a guy yelling in youtube comments, your voice would be drowned out by people with pre-existing status and monetary backing |
| 21: | 20:34 <HSE> what if I manipulated a WASP to be the figurehead of my campaign, or something |
| 21: | 20:42 <HSE> that is very true |
| 21: | 21:00 <ipgd> that wouldnt work because they're still at the mercy of their political parties |
| 21: | 21:12 <ipgd> you cant do big fringe things like that because there are penalties |
| 21: | 21:32 <HSE> ah I see what you're getting at now |
| 21: | 21:39 <ipgd> if said hypothetical figurehead did anything outside of the party line political groups would mobilize to get him out of power |
| 21: | 21:50 <ipgd> and replace him with a more servile sockpuppet |
| 21: | 22:05 <HSE> the democratic process was built to immobilize and prevent dictators from arising out of nowhere? that makes sense |
| 21: | 22:19 <HSE> what about a less democratic country |
| 21: | 22:26 <ipgd> in effect what you'd have to do is make your entire own political party, with enough clout to rival the major parties |
| 21: | 22:55 <ipgd> which, again, would not be attainable in your lifetime, and would require that people actually agree with you, not under duress or threat |
| 21: | 23:12 <ipgd> taking over a non-democratic country would require military force |
| 21: | 23:16 <ipgd> as an outsider |
| 21: | 23:22 <HSE> these are all very valid points |
| 21: | 24:06 <HSE> realistically, is there any likelihood of 70 million uteruses being destroyed via my direct involvement at all |
| 21: | 24:12 <ipgd> none at all |
| 21: | 24:16 <HSE> even if it's like 1% or something tiny |
| 21: | 24:18 <HSE> oh oka |
| 21: | 24:20 <HSE> okay |
| 21: | 24:23 <ipgd> i just think your efforts would be better spent trying to change your ideology than trying to change other people's, given that the latter is impossible and you seem fixated on SOME kind of change |
| 21: | 25:17 <HSE> you're suggesting that I become a liberal, correct? |
| 21: | 25:29 <ipgd> not necessarily |
| 21: | 25:45 <ipgd> you dont have to have any certain POLITICAL views |
| 21: | 25:47 <HSE> isn't the definition of liberal "someone who accomodates opinions other than their own" |
| 21: | 26:01 <ipgd> but learning to accept your own body as it is would probably be beneficial to you |
| 21: | 26:29 <HSE> how would you describe someone who wants to, say, achieve a democide record just because they want to |
| 21: | 26:34 <HSE> I accept it now and again |
| 21: | 26:36 <ipgd> it's not about accepting other people's views i just think the views you've chosen are unrealistic, unattainable and ultimately pointless because they cannot be realized |
| 21: | 27:27 <ipgd> like, you are sitting in your backyard trying your damnedest to jump into the sky and pull down the moon but that is not going to happen |
| 21: | 27:36 <ipgd> so why keep trying |
| 21: | 27:53 <ipgd> if you cant change the problem change your attitude about the problem so it ceases to be a problem |
| 21: | 27:55 <HSE> good point |
| 21: | 28:29 <ipgd> you could stay distressed about it forever, but with no way to realistically change it you're just causing yourself undue stress |
| 21: | 28:41 <HSE> it's not really a problem in the first place, my "natural state" (pre-Homestuck and pre-extremism) was one of yuppie equilibrium with the society at large |
| 21: | 29:04 <ipgd> and given the willingness and initiative you've already taken, i don't understand why you haven't tried altering yourself in THAT way |
| 21: | 29:49 <ipgd> im not suggesting you have to fall completely into step with mainstream society but you have views that are utterly irreconcilable with reality |
| 21: | 30:18 <ipgd> and will ultimately do nothing but cause you pain and lost time and money |
| 21: | 30:26 <ipgd> and potentially great harm to yourself if you ever screw up |
| 21: | 30:45 <HSE> alright |
| 21: | 31:13 <HSE> what sort of healthier thought process would you encourage me to adopt? |
| 21: | 31:29 <ipgd> not hating your sexual desires would be a start |
| 21: | 32:39 <HSE> not too much of a stretch, I've already debased myself numerous times in exchanges with aggrus |
| 21: | 32:42 <HSE> what else |
| 21: | 33:19 <ipgd> it seems like it would be best to start small |
| 21: | 34:38 <ipgd> being less resentful of hedonism in general would probably be beneficial |
| 21: | 35:02 <HSE> ok |
| 21: | 35:11 <HSE> would you recommend investing in opiates? |
| 21: | 35:24 <HSE> I already have some hydrocodone on hand so that wouldn't be very difficult either |
| 21: | 35:28 <ipgd> no |
| 21: | 35:36 <ipgd> you dont have to go full druglord man |
| 21: | 35:56 <ipgd> masturbate and dont feel bad about it |
| 21: | 36:02 <ipgd> drugs not required |
| 21: | 36:12 <HSE> I can't just masturbate myself to death though |
| 21: | 36:22 <ipgd> it's not all or nothing |
| 21: | 36:23 <HSE> what else should I do? not specifics, I don't expect or need you to do those |
| 21: | 36:28 <HSE> *to provide those |
| 21: | 36:39 <ipgd> you can masturbate occasionally and not to death and feel more fulfilled |
| 21: | 37:15 <ipgd> i dont know, your positions on sexuality and hedonism/indulgence in general seem to be the major things that you're hung up on |
| 21: | 38:34 <HSE> would the ability to masturbate a healthy amount, such as twice daily, free of self-hatred and generally loathsome feelings be considered progress |
| 21: | 38:46 <ipgd> yes |
| 21: | 38:55 <ipgd> even 3-4 times a week would be perfectly normal |
| 21: | 39:10 <ipgd> or even, just whenever you want to |
| 21: | 39:15 <HSE> to what end though |
| 21: | 39:16 <ipgd> don't force yourself to do any more or any less |
| 21: | 39:27 <ipgd> relief of the stress of worrying about it |
| 21: | 39:51 <HSE> this is all very simple and easy to accomplish, I feel there's something you're withholding from me here |
| 21: | 39:56 <HSE> where's the challenge |
| 21: | 40:00 <ipgd> by masturbating you're relieving sexual urges that may otherwise be bothersome if left unchecked, and by not feeling guilty about it you're using the least resource intensive method possible to manage it |
| 21: | 40:03 <ipgd> there is no challenge |
| 21: | 40:08 <ipgd> this is what most people do |
| 21: | 40:11 <HSE> I thought radically reforming my life would be hard or something |
| 21: | 40:12 <HSE> really? |
| 21: | 40:19 <ipgd> it's really easy, that's why everybody does it this way |
| 21: | 40:19 <ipgd> yesd |
| 21: | 40:28 <ipgd> i can personally attest that it works fine for me |
| 21: | 40:43 <ipgd> what you're doing is the much harder method |
| 21: | 41:00 <HSE> okay so the plan is to masturbate whenever I see the need, and continue accepting a paycheck in order to maintain my living conditions and more effectively facilitate masturbation? |
| 21: | 41:08 <HSE> damn son this is cake |
| 21: | 41:09 <ipgd> the only thing you need to overcome is your own mental block that makes you feel negatively about it |
| 21: | 41:12 <ipgd> yes |
| 21: | 41:27 <HSE> what happens when I feel the need to do something with my life again |
| 21: | 41:35 <ipgd> then once you aren't worrying about your sexual needs anymore, you can find something to do |
| 21: | 41:37 <ipgd> take up a hobby |
| 21: | 41:49 <ipgd> you could write |
| 21: | 42:00 <ipgd> about things not related to sex, even |
| 21: | 42:28 <HSE> before you list hobby options: how much anger will be required in this new system |
| 21: | 42:37 <ipgd> none? |
| 21: | 42:42 <HSE> what |
| 21: | 42:56 <ipgd> you'll be angry about the occasional thing i guess like anybody else is |
| 21: | 43:01 <ipgd> but it requires no sustained focused rage |
| 21: | 43:34 <HSE> should I try to think of this as anything other than a brutally repressive and unfufilling way to live |
| 21: | 43:50 <HSE> is that opinion a side-effect of my current and ineffective strategy |
| 21: | 43:55 <ipgd> why do you think it's repressive and unfulfilling? |
| 21: | 43:57 <ipgd> yes, i think it is |
| 21: | 44:26 <HSE> I just...do inane things because I want to? granted the other system was based on wants as well but at least that DID something |
| 21: | 44:32 <ipgd> i think partly you don't really understand how little most other people care about sex compared to you |
| 21: | 44:46 <HSE> this is just mulling around twiddling my thumbs around the vagina region until I starve to death or whatever |
| 21: | 44:50 <ipgd> like, do you imagine that most people spend as much time as you do suppressing your sexuality, on fulfilling their sexuality? |
| 21: | 44:52 <HSE> I care very much about most things |
| 21: | 45:05 <HSE> cared? |
| 21: | 45:06 <ipgd> no, this is just getting your vagina out of the way basically |
| 21: | 45:16 <ipgd> so you can do things entirely unrelated to your vagina |
| 21: | 45:23 <ipgd> and stop worrying about it entirely, in any capacity |
| 21: | 45:33 <HSE> ohhhhhhh |
| 21: | 45:49 <HSE> this is making more and more sense now |
| 21: | 45:54 <HSE> what of the hobbies though |
| 21: | 45:56 <ipgd> i mean, most people dont spend hours of every day thinking about their sexual desires really intensively |
| 21: | 46:01 <ipgd> i don't know, that's a personal thing |
| 21: | 46:08 <ipgd> you'd have to find something that you like yourself |
| 21: | 46:20 <ipgd> you could play video games |
| 21: | 46:24 <ipgd> or if you want to produce something |
| 21: | 46:24 <HSE> I adopted my current system because I liked hating |
| 21: | 46:28 <HSE> uhh |
| 21: | 46:34 <ipgd> you could try getting more seriously into writing or art |
| 21: | 46:50 <ipgd> or really anything you identify as personally fulfilling to you |
| 21: | 46:52 <HSE> are there any options which actively involve hatred or the direction of such in a constructive manner |
| 21: | 47:20 <ipgd> you'd probably be benefited by focusing less on the things you hate |
| 21: | 47:37 <HSE> I don't dislike them in themselves, it's the hating I enjoy |
| 21: | 47:40 <ipgd> you've spent so much time hating things that i dont think you even know what it is that you like |
| 21: | 47:49 <HSE> Spew for example is an outlet for the hate |
| 21: | 47:54 <HSE> I never thought of it that way! |
| 21: | 48:21 <ipgd> if you focused less on the hate and really tried to discover things that are personally fulfilling to you, in a non-hateful way |
| 21: | 48:25 <ipgd> you could be much more productive |
| 21: | 48:38 <ipgd> hate generally doesn't really... produce anything of worth |
| 21: | 48:54 <HSE> looking at the situation like that your ideas sound awfully promising, I have to say |
| 21: | 49:08 <ipgd> yeah, that's why most people do it this way |
| 21: | 49:43 <HSE> before I depart what would you recommend if I am unable to do banish my admiration for Tamerlane and all the accompanying hatred I have deliberately harbored? |
| 21: | 49:59 <HSE> or rather how should I act if the typical system doesn't work for whatever reason |
| 21: | 50:06 <HSE> is it infallible? should I just try harder? |
| 21: | 50:16 <ipgd> if you stop focusing so much on the hatred it shouldn't be a problem |
| 21: | 50:29 <ipgd> you'll always hate things a little, becoming completely without any hate is unrealistic |
| 21: | 50:41 <ipgd> but you should find some balance between enjoying hating things, and just enjoying things |
| 21: | 51:07 <ipgd> i really like hating twilight and reddit and mac users but there are also things i personally enjoy |
| 21: | 51:34 <HSE> you see I think that's where my issue(s) fundamentally stemmed from |
| 21: | 52:02 <HSE> it was my impression that people liked things because they thought those things were GOOD, and the hated elements were BAD (in simple terms) |
| 21: | 52:28 <HSE> whereas people are essentially doing the opposite and letting themselves form opinions ex nihilo |
| 21: | 52:41 <ipgd> good and bad are pretty arbitrary designations |
| 21: | 53:03 <ipgd> 'good' and 'bad' are more like labels for opinions you've already formed |
| 21: | 53:15 <HSE> god I was attacking this whole thing from the wrong side |
| 21: | 53:30 <HSE> jesus dick |
| 21: | 53:39 <HSE> have I always seemed this backwards to you people? |
| 21: | 53:46 <HSE> be honest |
| 21: | 53:47 <ipgd> yeah kinda lol |
| 21: | 54:34 <HSE> that certainly is something |
| 21: | 54:35 <HSE> well |
| 21: | 54:56 <HSE> I guess there is masturbation to be done? |
| 21: | 55:03 <HSE> talk to you later, and thanks for your help |
| 21: | 55:06 <ipgd> yes, that would be good |
| 21: | 55:08 <ipgd> you're welcome |
| 22: | 02:48 <HSE> wait one last question |
| 22: | 02:54 <ipgd> sure |
| 22: | 03:20 <HSE> is there an effective method of quelling my bias against sexual content EXCLUDING vaccuum-pump abuse |
| 22: | 03:31 <HSE> masturbation is the key here |
| 22: | 03:48 <ipgd> if you enjoy using it while masturbating and it isnt physically harmful in any lasting manner theres no reason not to do it |
| 22: | 04:03 <HSE> if I can find something I like on my own accord, the hobby stuff will open up and it will be downhill from there |
| 22: | 04:12 <ipgd> yes |
| 22: | 04:30 <HSE> I don't enjoy it while masturbating, at this time it's necessary to use it simply to become aroused |
| 22: | 04:59 <HSE> hard not to feel lascivious when every wind gust feels deligtful and all that ha ha ha |
| 22: | 05:00 <ipgd> well ideally itd be best to return to a point where you wouldnt need the pump |
| 22: | 05:07 <HSE> that's what I'm aiming for |
| 22: | 05:13 <ipgd> but if you want to use it just for fun |
| 22: | 05:24 <ipgd> no reason not to |
| 22: | 07:33 <HSE> should I wing it and just put objects in there until I enjoy myself |
| 22: | 07:46 <ipgd> within reason |
| 22: | 07:50 <ipgd> you could get a dildo |
| 22: | 08:56 <HSE> if you don't mind me saying, I DO have a tiny egg-shaped vibrator dealie but I'm not sure it would have any impact |
| 22: | 09:11 <ipgd> well, it doesnt hurt to try it |
| 22: | 09:14 <HSE> would pumping first and applying the vibrator afterward yield some gains in the area |
| 22: | 09:15 <HSE> ok |
| 22: | 09:25 <ipgd> try and see |
| 22: | 11:02 <HSE> this is going to take a while, I'll check in later this week with results |
| 22: | 11:26 <HSE> good evening |
| 22: | 11:33 <HSE> (for realisies this time) |
| 22: | 11:42 <ipgd> night |
HSE
| <HSE> | is there any way to voice one's appreciation for the remarkable aesthetic appeal of human skulls without appearing to be a creep |
| <ipgd> | no |
| <myhandle> | ^ |
| <c1QfXUgcGY0> | ^ |
| <HSE> | this is disheartening |
If you don’t ship Rose Kanaya I will shit on your bed and cut open all your pillows while throwing rosemary at your face
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| <Karesh> | Lets say one guy raped a dog |
| <Karesh> | and the other stole a bag of chips |
| <Karesh> | whcih is worse to you |
| <HSE> | the stealing one |
| <Karesh> | Hahahaah |
| <Karesh> | Oh god |
| <HSE> | stealing deprives a human, presumably sapient merchant of goods |
| <HSE> | it's economically and socially detrimental as it both riles the merchant and deprives him of some earnings |
| <Karesh> | Goods of such little market value they're thrown out in the tens of thousands every week |
| <HSE> | meanwhile dogs are little automata that can be usef for whatever the heck, including food |
| <HSE> | *used |
